ID this little 3" pleco

[Jkhuu]

Wanted to see which L-number you guys think it is ? Its about 3" SL.

Thanks

JK

http://www.canadapleco.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1148&d=1268595613

http://www.canadapleco.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1149&d=1268595615

http://www.canadapleco.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1150&d=1268595616

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[Chouin]

Hello JK,
Is-it yours ? It look like an awesome little pseuda.
Look like a L114, but the colors are "weird".
Your first picture look like the ones on this site :
http://aquafin.web.infoseek.co.jp/pleco/New-pleco-top.html
(look at numbers 37, 40 & 41 in the middle of the page)
Chouin

[Jkhuu]

Hello JK,
Is-it yours ? It look like an awesome little pseuda.
Look like a L114, but the colors are "weird".
Your first picture look like the ones on this site :
http://aquafin.web.infoseek.co.jp/pleco/New-pleco-top.html
(look at numbers 37, 40 & 41 in the middle of the page)
Chouin

Hey Chouin,

Thanks. My first thought was possibly L273 ? Couple of reasons why i think it might not be L114. There's 2 rows of black dots along the snout to the head (like #40 in that Japanese site). 2nd. The body pattern is different. 3rd. The tail itself. I think the 2 streamers will be longer then the lil' L114.

[CanadaPleco]

I dont think 273, I think maybe 114 with different colouration, maybe little 600 even

[Charles]

not 273. pretty sure itis 114.

[Hitch]

according to the PC pseuda page.........its a pseuda sp. (5)

though there is uncertainty whether its just a odd colouration of a leopardus or L273.

[Jkhuu]

Thanks. Possible, possible. I'll track it's growth as I am curious what it will into :)

[Thanusan]

wt about L600

[Jkhuu]

wt about L600

That's also a possibility. The 2 verticle lines of black dots in the head region is interesting though.

[Bwhiskered]

Loads of them coming into the stores and wholesalers as L-114. They are coming out of Columbia

[jackson]

L-114 for sure

[Jkhuu]

Loads of them coming into the stores and wholesalers as L-114. They are coming out of Columbia


L-114 for sure

Thats very possible. Just that I've never seen one with head pattern like this :)

[Thanusan]

lots of people have L114 now,big als have it for $30 now.Year ago $100+.

[Hitch]

Thats very possible. Just that I've never seen one with head pattern like this :)

ya, there have been a recent flood of odd patterned L114s....I really wonder what they look like when they grow..

[CanadaPleco]

Loads of them coming into the stores and wholesalers as L-114. They are coming out of Columbia

114's are on all the Brazil lists, havent seen them on any Columbian ones myself.

[Zebrapl3co]

Wow, I've been thinking "What the"! ...it doesn't look like any L114 or L600 that I've seen. Then again, it might have been a L114 baby though. But the rear fin was fully coloured, could it be possible that the Brazilian or Columbians are cross breeding the L114 and the L600 and then lied that they are wild caught?

[Jkhuu]

Wow, I've been thinking "What the"! ...it doesn't look like any L114 or L600 that I've seen. Then again, it might have been a L114 baby though. But the rear fin was fully coloured, could it be possible that the Brazilian or Columbians are cross breeding the L114 and the L600 and then lied that they are wild caught?

Peter,

Very possible. When I first saw it, I thought it was unique in a couple of ways compared to smaller L114's, L600's. So, I'll see what it will grow out to be in a couple of months.

[Jkhuu]

Came across this sample of the L273 from L-Welse.com (Hope its ok to paste a link of their pic..Please remove if not Rich. Thanks)

I thought it was similar to my fish in a way, but we'll see in 6 months time :)

JK

http://www.l-welse.com/reviewpost/showfull.php?product=288&bigimage=L273-1.jpg

[tobalman]

Came across this sample of the L273 from L-Welse.com (Hope its ok to paste a link of their pic..Please remove if not Rich. Thanks)

I thought it was similar to my fish in a way, but we'll see in 6 months time :)

JK



http://www.l-welse.com/reviewpost/showfull.php?product=288&bigimage=L273-1.jpg
your link, fish have irregular spots like squares and rectangles but your pleco the spots are round.

I would say it's L114. the fading color not odd pattern but rather cause by stress. Give it a month and you will see.

[Jkhuu]

Hehee...Is that your final answer Hong ? Seriously, I'll try to take a pic every 3-4 months just to keep track of it's development and growth. Would be interest to see.

[jackson]

When i get a chance I will show you some odd pattern L-114's I picked up. i was able to look through a few hundred of them over the last few months and picked out some really different looking L-114's.

The fish you have is very nice.

[Jkhuu]

When i get a chance I will show you some odd pattern L-114's I picked up. i was able to look through a few hundred of them over the last few months and picked out some really different looking L-114's.

The fish you have is very nice.

Tganja Jackson.
would be good to see different variations of the L114s.

[Zebrapl3co]

Oooo ... me too, please post some picks.

[Jkhuu]

Well, checked the little guy yesterday and he's not really lil anymore. Grew almost like an inch since that last pics.

Thought I would share and also I noticed black seams at the end of the tail and dorsal fins. Also another observation was the dots on the tail. They were not black, but rather grayish transparent...interesting.

[Jkhuu]

Update Sept 10, 2010

Got a bit bigger : ) I notice that the head is very unique and flatter than other plecs. Overall body shape is also a bit shorter. Approx. 5.5"

[2wheelsx2]

It almost looks like a cross between an L114 and L273 now to me.

[Jkhuu]

It almost looks like a cross between an L114 and L273 now to me.
Yah, it's a cross of some sort. The dark body dots are not as distinct...almost faded in a way. Wish they had a few more when I picked it up. Growth rate is same if not faster than L114s.

[jimmy chonga]

what are you feeding your pseudas to get such good growth rates if you dont mind me asking?

[Jkhuu]

Mostly pellets (NLS & colourbit, massivoire), bloodworms, algae wafers. The occasional frozen homemade mix. I have frozen shrimp and zucchini added to the mix so it less time-consuming to feed separately.
I personally find feeding them once a day works best and minimize the mess.

JK

[CanadaPleco]

Pretty much what I feed mine also, I think jkhuu does more water changes or something tho, cause he seems to get crazy growth. That's my new years... errr well september years goal, to do 2 x 50%+ water changes a week. My experience I have noticed better growth on water changes then food..

[Jkhuu]

Pretty much what I feed mine also, I think jkhuu does more water changes or something tho, cause he seems to get crazy growth. That's my new years... errr well september years goal, to do 2 x 50%+ water changes a week. My experience I have noticed better growth on water changes then food..

Ancient chinese secret :) Seriously, I would love to be able to do 20% twice a week, but between work schedules and the 2 lil' ones, available time is a premium. Maybe someday I'll setup constant drip system. Big water changes will definitely have a positive effect on growth though.

[Zebrapl3co]

Pretty much what I feed mine also, I think jkhuu does more water changes or something tho, cause he seems to get crazy growth. That's my new years... errr well september years goal, to do 2 x 50%+ water changes a week. My experience I have noticed better growth on water changes then food..
Yup, my experience also indicate that the size of the tank, correct currents and frequent water change helps them grow faster too. Too much meaty diet only turns them into a fat fish.

[2wheelsx2]

I'm doing the 50 - 60% 2x a week in my 125 and I have noticed some increased growth in certain species. The L114, L200a and my Royals (L330, L190 and L191) seem to have increased appetitite and seem to be growing faster. However, the L273, L128, L226, L239 and the rest (a bunch of Hypans) don't seem to care.

[jimmy chonga]

see, this is why I love coming here. I post on other boards and people flip when I tell them i change 50% weekly, and here you guys are doing 50% or more, twice a week.

If you think about it, they are river fish by nature, meaning they have a constant supply of fresh water rushing by them at all time. Maybe thats part of the reason why growth rates are so accelerated in the wild?

I love all the pleco keeping secrets, thanks guys

[Jkhuu]

see, this is why I love coming here. I post on other boards and people flip when I tell them i change 50% weekly, and here you guys are doing 50% or more, twice a week.

If you think about it, they are river fish by nature, meaning they have a constant supply of fresh water rushing by them at all time. Maybe thats part of the reason why growth rates are so accelerated in the wild?

I love all the pleco keeping secrets, thanks guys

Mike,
Lol...I was thinking of setting up a system similar to the one in the video, but my wife would have kicked me out of the house :blush: But imagine that eh. Twice a day the tanks get emptied.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWMnPZKJWaE&feature=related

[MsGardeness]

Wow - that's a lot of water to go through twice a day!! I wonder if they have any mould issues with it being wet so long/often. But what a cool set up / easy way to do water changes! :)

[jimmy chonga]

Mike,
Lol...I was thinking of setting up a system similar to the one in the video, but my wife would have kicked me out of the house :blush: But imagine that eh. Twice a day the tanks get emptied.


haha my gf gets a bit grumpy about the noise my HOB's make. imagine what she's do if i had water jets shooting in the living room while she's trying to watch coronation street on a sunday afternoon LOL

You spot the big pleco tail in that vid? ;)

[michaelcc666]

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